Google thinks an IP address is not personal

>From Tweakers.net

On the blog of Google – software engineer Alma Whitten is talking about an IP address IS or is NOT personal. (in other words, can you figure out who someone is from an IP address?) Google – or at least Alma Whitten is saying NO….

Very wierd. Maybe NOT in some countries – but at least in Holland = I really would call it PERSONAL….

I have my internet connection via Orange; I am living in this house for almost 2 years – and also the service of Orange.
According to Orange; I have a dynamic IP address…… But as far as I can see – I already have the same IP address for almost 2 years now.
Before that; I had internet via Chello; also with a dynamic IP address; but in the 5 years I had that internet – it also changed ONCE !!!
It changed because Chello “made a mistake” and “cancelled my account” ……

So – IP address NOT personal…???

Some people will say; what does it matter…. that little Google is keeping that information….??

Okay – I am Googling a lot = some of my searches could be “beer” “rum” or “fire” “breaking glass” …..
And Google LOVES the money – that is a sure fact….
I guarantee you that my health insurance is interested in my “beer and rum” consumption (read; search).
“Mr Sjeltur is an alcoholic – raise of health insurance”
“Mr Sjeltur had his house on fire – but it seems that we (as insurance company) can proof that he started the fire”

And yep – in January I am looking up “fire” and next year January my house gets on fire….. – Google kept the “proof” for 12 months….

And if I Google for a certain brand of car – and all of a sudden I get mail about that brand car…. – not something I am waiting for….

This way I can go ooooon and oooon and ooooon…..

And saying that the IP address is not trackable…..

Oh yes it is…… !!!

Just for your information; via Google Analytics - I can track YOUR IP address; it gives me also the place you live….
and with the IP address – and some search on other messageboards etc etc – where you all leave your address or telephone number or your name…. it is extremely easy to find you !!!
(dont worry; Sjeltur is armless = but can we say the same about Google…??)

Yep; my IP address is a personal thing, Mr.Google – and I am more than 100% sure you know that too. Although – knowing that – is not a convenient truth for you uh..??

 

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18 Responses to “Google thinks an IP address is not personal”

  1. Very true. But, the user has a responsibility too to defend his of hers privacy. Especially leaving your private information like name, address, phonenumber on fora etc. That’s a very bad idea.

  2. @Rudy
    As long as the user is not fully aware of all the risk with doing such a thing. I think it is better to make the IP address a private/personal. (pls remember that not only adult people are surfing the web; and most people who surf the web = know how to do such – but not how/why/where etc.)

  3. There’s a big difference between private and personal, though. An IP address can be personal, but it’s never private. You can’t hide your IP address, otherwise you can’t use the internet at all. Even if you use an anonymizer, there’s allways at least some traffic that reveals your IP address.

  4. Btw, type sjeltur in Google and see what the first result says. lol

  5. You are completely right about private and personal; but MAYBE that is something which has to change….? Make the IP address your private owning; and you can decide yourselve if you want others to see it or not….

    And yep – the first result does say something about this Mr. Sjeltur…uh…    ;)

  6. Yes, a possibility is that your ISP translates your IP address to a new address that other people see on the internet. That would probably cost the ISPs a lot of money to make this possible., though. And to be effective that address should change often. A problem with this is that an ISP can’t change that address when you’re online running p2p and other applications were the IP address has to be the same while running that application. Only when you’re going offline and online again, the ISP can change that address.

  7. Yes, a possibility is that your ISP translates your IP address to a new address that other people see on the internet. That would probably cost the ISPs a lot of money to make this possible, though. And to be effective that address should change often. A problem with this is that an ISP can’t change that address when you’re online running p2p and other applications were the IP address has to be the same while running that application. Only when you’re going offline and online again, the ISP can change that address.

    (oops, got this errormessage posting: Cannot open file (/home/sjeltur/domains/sjeltur.nl/public_html/wp-content/backup/.htaccess)Cannot write to file (/home/sjeltur/domains/sjeltur.nl/public_html/wp-content/backup/.htaccess)

  8. I think there should be a way to figure out that a IP address is hidden….
    And people can decide themselve if they "open it"…. which you probably will have to do – in case of P2P etc. = but then even to "a select group of people".

    I think it is very wierd that an IP address is "open".

  9. No, it’s not weird. You need something that tells where to send the data to, and back. Just like a snailmail address, that address is "open" too, otherwise the mailman can’t deliver the mail…

  10. And that is why they also made postboxes at the postoffice. So there will not be a mailman sniffin’ at your door…..

    On the other hand; the internet leaves a lot of traces WITH that IP address; I dont think the mailman is making copies of my mail and leaves it at all kind of places…..

    I would not be surprised (here goes the conspiracy…..) if there are a lot of companies totally NOT interested in the IP address being private AND personal…. Microsoft would/could be one of them….

    I do believe they can make this technology work…. – but there is a difference in “making it work” and “willing to make it work” …..

  11. Yes, there are postboxes. And something like that would be possible for the internet, but it would require a large investment for the ISps, and the ISPs will charge their customers for that. I’m afraid that most customers are not willing to pay for such a system. But you’re absolutely right about those companies that probably are not too thrilled about the idea of a private/personal address. And law enforcement and intelligence agencies, anti-piracy organizations (Brein!) would be against it as well.

    Off topic, read this cranky, rather cynical piece by Brein, it’s hilarious (in Dutch): http://anti-piracy.nl/nieuws/artikel.asp?artikelid=31

  12. Btw, post some more stuff like this on your website, the top of the page says "the world according to sjeltur", well, the world is more than all that Xbox and gaming stuff. ;) 

  13. Not true….. – that is my world = I can start telling about shoes in boxes – but I dont think "people are waiting for my work stories"…….

    Suggestions..?? How much bigger is your world….??

  14. Well, then it should read ‘My world according to Sjeltur’, not ‘The world according to ‘Sjeltur’…

    There are so many more subjects, even if you stick to technology related stuff. This post about privacy and the internet is a nice example, that’s interesting.  And maybe about other subjects as well, how does Sjeltur think about Geert Wilders and him movie, what’s going on in the Middle-East, the coming crash of the US economy, just to name few subjects that’s going on right now…   ;)

  15. Ooooh oooh Rudy – never heared of alter-ego’s…??
    My sjeltur is not interested in all this; if I would write the real "world according so sjeltur"  it would be about my little fights with that canadian girl, about why I am not allowed on the one couch – but am allowed on the other one…

    And the subjects you are putting in; too many people are talking…..    ;)
    and it is getting boring…..

    I will put my little economic views (read; Take-2 and EA games) – logistic problems (read; guitar hero vs rockband) – and stuff like this items (me thinkinking an IP address is private)….. with this I went in about 3 weeks from 1 reader (ME) to almost 20 per day…… by week 52 I should be bigger than "telegraaf.nl"  with their "views"  on your subjects…. hahahaha

  16. "by week 52 I should be bigger than "telegraaf.nl"  with their "views"  on your subjects"  lol :)   sjeltur for web domination!  hahaha  LOL  ;)

  17. ah well – you know my ego…. hahahaha

    but on other hand; if you have some articles you would like to write – and published overhere… ya wellcome….
    pls keep them comp technology related though….   ;)

  18. Cool, if I come across something comp tech related that would be interesting to publish here, I’ll pass it on to you. :)

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